I am 82 years old and obese. I have tried to lose weight, but I haven't been successful. My cardiologist writes in his office notes that I should lose weight, but he has never suggested medication. With the significant price drop of Ozempic, Wegovy, and Zepbound, is it time for me to ask my cardiologist for one of them, and which one is best?
COPILOT
(Smart mode)
Given your age, heart history, and the fact that you’ve
already been under a cardiologist’s care, this is absolutely the kind of
conversation worth having directly with your doctor — and now may be a good
moment to raise it, especially with the recent price changes.
Here’s a clear, side-by-side look at the three drugs you
mentioned, based on current evidence:
|
Medication |
Active Ingredient |
FDA Approval for Weight Loss |
Typical Average Weight Loss in Trials |
Notable Benefits |
Key Considerations for Older Adults |
|
Ozempic |
Semaglutide |
❌ (approved for type 2
diabetes; used off-label for weight loss) |
~10–12% of body weight |
Improves blood sugar control; reduces the risk of heart
attack/ stroke in people with heart disease. |
Less studied in people over 75, GI side effects (nausea,
vomiting) can lead to dehydration and muscle loss. |
|
Wegovy |
Semaglutide |
✅ |
~15% of body weight |
Same heart benefits as Ozempic; approved explicitly for
chronic weight management. |
Similar side effect profile; requires ongoing use to
maintain weight loss. |
|
Zepbound |
Tirzepatide |
✅ |
Up to ~21% of body weight at the highest dose |
Dual-action (GLP-1 + GIP) may lead to greater weight loss;
it is also approved for use in patients with obesity and sleep apnea. |
Newer drug — long-term data in the 80+ age group are limited;
may have more potent GI effects. |
Why this matters for you:
- Potential
benefits: All three can help with weight loss and may improve
cardiovascular outcomes, which is relevant given your cardiologist’s
notes.
- Risks
in your age group: Older adults are more prone to dehydration,
dizziness, and muscle loss from rapid weight reduction. That’s why close
monitoring — especially of hydration, nutrition, and muscle strength — is
essential.
- Drug
choice: There’s no universal “best” — Zepbound shows the most
significant average weight loss in trials, but Wegovy has more established
long-term data for weight management. Ozempic is often chosen if diabetes
is also present, but it’s not FDA-approved for weight loss.
How to bring it up with your cardiologist:
- Mention
your ongoing difficulty losing weight despite lifestyle changes.
- Note
the recent price drop and ask whether a GLP-1 medication could be
appropriate for you.
- Ask
which option they feel balances effectiveness, safety, and your heart
health.
- Discuss
a plan for monitoring side effects, hydration, and muscle mass.
Here is a draft a short, focused message or
talking points for a cardiologist in January, or seek an appointment sooner
with my PCP?
Here’s a way to frame it so you’re prepared for either path
— keeping it short, clear, and medically relevant.
Option 1 – Talking Points for January Cardiologist Visit
- State
the challenge plainly: “I’ve been unable to lose weight despite diet
and activity changes.”
- Reference
medical context: “At my age and with my heart history, I’m concerned
about the health risks of remaining at this weight.”
- Tie
in recent developments: “The recent price drop for GLP-1 medications
like Wegovy, Ozempic, and Zepbound has made them more accessible.”
- Ask
for their guidance: “Do you think one of these would be appropriate
for me, and which would be safest given my age and heart condition?”
- Agree
on a plan: “If we start, how will we monitor side effects, hydration,
and muscle strength?”
Option 2 – Requesting a Sooner PCP Appointment
If your concern is urgency — for example, if your weight, energy, or cardiac
symptoms have worsened — it’s reasonable to call your PCP now rather than
waiting until January. A PCP can:
- Review
your overall health and medications.
- Determine
if a GLP-1 is appropriate now.
- Coordinate
with your cardiologist if they agree to start therapy.
How to decide on timing:
- Sooner:
If symptoms are worsening, or you feel waiting could risk your health.
- January:
If your condition is stable and you’d prefer to make the decision directly
with your cardiologist, who knows your heart history best.
I expect to end my ADT for stage 4 cancer in December.
Should wait and bring up the topic with my oncologist and urologist in November
before seeking advice from my PCP. Comments?
That’s a thoughtful sequencing question — and in your
specific medical landscape, it makes sense to loop in the cancer‑care
specialists before making a weight‑loss medication decision with your
PCP.
Here’s why:
- They
know your current treatment’s impact on weight and metabolism — ADT
often changes body composition, insulin sensitivity, and cardiovascular
risk. Your oncologist and urologist can help determine whether these
effects persist after you stop therapy.
- Medication
interactions and safety context — Some cancer treatments (even post-ADT)
can influence how you tolerate GLP-1 drugs, or might make rapid weight
loss less advisable without additional monitoring.
- Coordinating
the “medical narrative” — Having your oncologist or urologist document
that they’ve reviewed and support the idea can make your PCP and
cardiologist more comfortable initiating therapy.
- Timing
advantage — If you meet with them in November, they can flag whether
it’s safe to start early in the new year or if they prefer a waiting
period after ADT ends.
Practical pathway:
- November:
Discuss with oncologist/urologist — focus on safety, cancer-specific
considerations, and timing after ADT.
- Post‑discussion:
Share their input with your PCP (and/or cardiologist) for a prescribing
decision. This way, everyone is on the same page, and you avoid
conflicting advice.